Against a blood-red backdrop, President Biden gives an urgent campaign speech, warning that America is becoming semi-Nazi Germany, Donald Trump is partial Hitler, and our almost democracy is on the precipice of kinda revolution. The lads watch the speech and say lots of really smart things. But
Sooo, we're still not getting Moynihan's uncensored questions and thoughts about the whole "We apologise for the unspeakable harm Ben Shapiro's presence has caused at our podcasting conference" debacle?
I'm really disappointed in you guys and expect you to DO.BETTER next time.
This isn't really directly related to the episode, but I think you guys should try to get Roland Freyer on the pod. Seems like he fits perfectly into your guys sweet spot of "Someone we have substantive disagreements with but who is intellectually honest and willing to have a serious conversation about those differences". I think I probably fall more on your guys' side of most issues, but I think a conversation with you guys would be really interesting.
This feels like the start of an ongoing series in which Welch pontificates on the sexual adventures buried in the lyrics of "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard" and Moynihan counters with a direct claim that "Basketball Jones" is about adolescent boys sharing oral sex with homeless men. Kmele will counter that "Get Low" is about the indignities of working for a home cleaning service and that "skeet skeet skeet" is the sound of a Windex bottle.
Is the Redbox Army Faction scandal over? Has Kmele stopped receiving terroristic hate mail over his standards? Can a man in America have standards again?!?!
I didn't watch the speech (college football is back!) but after reading some highlights I'm left wondering why our political class is so desperately stupid? To the extent that anyone is still on the fence about Trump, attacking him is not going to persuade them to support Democrats. What exactly do the Democrats hope to accomplish by shining an even bigger spotlight on Trump? Why can't they understand that he feeds off of this sort of thing?
Trump isn’t The Rosenbergs - he is Harold Martin. Nobody ever found evidence that Martin intended to do anything with the hundreds of terabytes of classified data he brought home with him from the NSA. He was a weirdo who stashed it in his garage and his car. But he still got 9 years. I am not a fan of Trump getting prosecuted because it only will make people crazier on both sides. But let’s not pretend it’s nothing - to Moynihan’s point, when ordinary people have done it they’ve gone to jail.
Can we acknowledge how wrong Eli Lake’s initial “every president does this” analysis was regarding Mar a Lago? Just because one side exaggerating an issue doesn’t necessitate downplaying it.
I understand being frustrated by broken norms. But for decades, the elected politicians and the bureaucracy have de facto supported open borders, and the best the republicans you guys are okay with can do is support amnesty. What about those broken norms? People are frustrated that our country effectively has no border, and the longer this goes on the worse things are going to get.
Have been a fan of your great podcast for a year or so now, and you are still the only podcast I pay for, in these poor times so must it be.
There is golden entertainment in your old archive that I am catching up on!
I was listening to your episode 31 just now, with my noisecancelling headphones, when at the end a fu**ing loud noise were doing a dynamite bang in my ears, and I now truly understand Matt's issues with his ears a few months back now.
The same bang made me spill a whole fu**king cup of coffee all over me as well, god damn! From now on I have to listen to the old episodes via my speakers, in stead of thinking I am involved in Putins world war III every time I listen to your old episodes... Being from up north of Norway originally, where we do nothing but swearing, I am glad my kids were not up yet this sunday morning to listen to my colorful language!
Well, since I had to yell out to you, I might as well ask you a question I have been thinking about for a while now. I have been a liberalist myself since late 80s, and even do a very niche liberalist podcast myself here in Norway (Liberaleren Podcast), it really is the best therapy there is, and way cheaper than a shrink!
So, here goes, I am in a bit of depressing mode, when it comes to the future of liberalism as a whole, perfectly demonstrated by LPs disgusting picture of John McCains daugther by her fathers coffin, with the text "happy holidays". How can the reputation (if there is any left?) of liberalism survive when so called representatives for said liberalism is shitty insane people? Is liberalism with political parties now over? Is the next stage to focus only within thinktanks or even within the corporate world? Insane Trumpists and neocons have taken over this lovely world of ours...
I find the state of the liberalistic world completely depressing these days, what do you guys think of this? And, is there a "solution" going forward? How can true liberalism survive?
Sooo, we're still not getting Moynihan's uncensored questions and thoughts about the whole "We apologise for the unspeakable harm Ben Shapiro's presence has caused at our podcasting conference" debacle?
I'm really disappointed in you guys and expect you to DO.BETTER next time.
This isn't really directly related to the episode, but I think you guys should try to get Roland Freyer on the pod. Seems like he fits perfectly into your guys sweet spot of "Someone we have substantive disagreements with but who is intellectually honest and willing to have a serious conversation about those differences". I think I probably fall more on your guys' side of most issues, but I think a conversation with you guys would be really interesting.
This feels like the start of an ongoing series in which Welch pontificates on the sexual adventures buried in the lyrics of "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard" and Moynihan counters with a direct claim that "Basketball Jones" is about adolescent boys sharing oral sex with homeless men. Kmele will counter that "Get Low" is about the indignities of working for a home cleaning service and that "skeet skeet skeet" is the sound of a Windex bottle.
Is the Redbox Army Faction scandal over? Has Kmele stopped receiving terroristic hate mail over his standards? Can a man in America have standards again?!?!
I didn't watch the speech (college football is back!) but after reading some highlights I'm left wondering why our political class is so desperately stupid? To the extent that anyone is still on the fence about Trump, attacking him is not going to persuade them to support Democrats. What exactly do the Democrats hope to accomplish by shining an even bigger spotlight on Trump? Why can't they understand that he feeds off of this sort of thing?
OJ - If I Did It
MJ - If I Diddled
I can’t wait for Thriller emails
Trump isn’t The Rosenbergs - he is Harold Martin. Nobody ever found evidence that Martin intended to do anything with the hundreds of terabytes of classified data he brought home with him from the NSA. He was a weirdo who stashed it in his garage and his car. But he still got 9 years. I am not a fan of Trump getting prosecuted because it only will make people crazier on both sides. But let’s not pretend it’s nothing - to Moynihan’s point, when ordinary people have done it they’ve gone to jail.
Given the performance of the Artemis rocket, the goal of putting a woman of color on the moon is simply racism.
Here’s the thing, Kmele. It’s not that MJ’s “Thriller” was so massive, it just appeared so because the kid’s hands were so small.
Can we acknowledge how wrong Eli Lake’s initial “every president does this” analysis was regarding Mar a Lago? Just because one side exaggerating an issue doesn’t necessitate downplaying it.
I understand being frustrated by broken norms. But for decades, the elected politicians and the bureaucracy have de facto supported open borders, and the best the republicans you guys are okay with can do is support amnesty. What about those broken norms? People are frustrated that our country effectively has no border, and the longer this goes on the worse things are going to get.
* Thriller is a GREAT album... The credit should go to Quincy Jones though. Thats his record.
My 84 year old dad said his 9/11 was Pearl Harbor...
God damn boys!
Have been a fan of your great podcast for a year or so now, and you are still the only podcast I pay for, in these poor times so must it be.
There is golden entertainment in your old archive that I am catching up on!
I was listening to your episode 31 just now, with my noisecancelling headphones, when at the end a fu**ing loud noise were doing a dynamite bang in my ears, and I now truly understand Matt's issues with his ears a few months back now.
The same bang made me spill a whole fu**king cup of coffee all over me as well, god damn! From now on I have to listen to the old episodes via my speakers, in stead of thinking I am involved in Putins world war III every time I listen to your old episodes... Being from up north of Norway originally, where we do nothing but swearing, I am glad my kids were not up yet this sunday morning to listen to my colorful language!
Well, since I had to yell out to you, I might as well ask you a question I have been thinking about for a while now. I have been a liberalist myself since late 80s, and even do a very niche liberalist podcast myself here in Norway (Liberaleren Podcast), it really is the best therapy there is, and way cheaper than a shrink!
So, here goes, I am in a bit of depressing mode, when it comes to the future of liberalism as a whole, perfectly demonstrated by LPs disgusting picture of John McCains daugther by her fathers coffin, with the text "happy holidays". How can the reputation (if there is any left?) of liberalism survive when so called representatives for said liberalism is shitty insane people? Is liberalism with political parties now over? Is the next stage to focus only within thinktanks or even within the corporate world? Insane Trumpists and neocons have taken over this lovely world of ours...
I find the state of the liberalistic world completely depressing these days, what do you guys think of this? And, is there a "solution" going forward? How can true liberalism survive?
I appreciate the throat clearing around Michigan. We are idiots, but also not idiots as Moyn qualified. :D