Power Strip A Victory for Equity Surveying the Midterms Fetterman’s Debate Disaster The Mystery of the AIDS Quilt The People vs Jim Eagle Eminent, Indefatigable Election Fraud Yarvin - The Mastermind Black Lives Redux I Miss The Old Kanye “Whatabout!?” MSNBC Montage
Difference between blaming “white people” and blaming Jews is the numbers. White people are the majority, it’s not an existential threat. Jews are 2% of the American population, it’s an existential threat once you start blaming things on us. There’s also something of a magical quality assigned to our (perceived) power, not just us rigging a system for centuries.
"The (Jews/ Whites/ Blacks/ Asians) are overrepresented in (academia/ the media/ the government/ c- suites) because of (systemic racism/ affirmative action/ space lasers)"
What a lineup....I don't think any of those talking points will be hit...this will be a podcast about why Husker Dü's influence on The Hold Steady is over-stated, or how Chance the Rapper's Christianity is redolent of Dylan's Christian period or [insert weirdly insightful and totally unrelated obscure pop culture reference here].....and I can't fucking wait.
Fetterman probably should not have agreed to debate in the traditional manner, and of course following a stroke voters should question his cognitive and decision-making abilities-which could be temporarily or permanently impaired.
But whether or not he can speak properly doesn’t have anything to do with that.
Kmele's issue seems to be that other stupid ideas and actions haven't been treated the same as Kanye's stupid ideas and actions. There is no government coercion, the free market is at work. Isn't that what Kmele ultimately wants? You can criticize others not getting same amount of heat without laying down what pretty damn close to a defense of a loud-mouthed moron (Kanye).
Awesome convo. Coleman was a pleasant surprise! I love Hughes and subscribe to his podcast. Gillespie I hadn't been aware of but he's clearly a highly intelligent, articulate thinker. I wrote down that book, too, African Founders; I may have to read that one. Reminds me of Thomas Sowell. Two big points I wanted to comment on:
1. They brought up a good point about Kanye and race essentialism/contemprary American racial thinking. It's funny (and bizarre) how white woke people seem to be playing right into White Supremacy tropes in order to "make their point" about the "racism" of "white people." (I use quotation marks because WTF do these words even mean in 2022?) Megan Kelly made a similar point on her podcast in 2020: Obsessing about race and representation brings race into the pre-frontal cortex; it makes us all think obsessively about race like we never have before, at least in modern times.
Therefore, yes, some people are going to cross the line in public ways (Kanye); it's going to get nasty. I don't think anyone can be or even should be colorblind; I think we should all collectively, of all races, admit that we notice race (of course we do) and that we have thoughts/feelings/judgments about other people and this is normal and human. What's NOT normal is to ACT on those thoughts and impulses. This all boils down to the cliche of virtue-signaling and the puritanical insanity of thinking we are "higher" or morally "better" than we are. We're human beings, with character flaws and weaknesses; always have been, always will be. Let's own it.
2. I agree that the free speech fiasco we're in is tricky. I had a debate with a Substack reader on here a week or so ago. His view was that anything should be allowed on platforms. (Including dropping the fully-spelled-out "N-Word.") Many on the left, of course argue the exact opposite: Many of them feel anyone who they disagree with or they see as "evil" (another boldly subjective term) should be removed, de-platformed, destroyed.
I am closer to the first understanding, but more between the two. As so many have already said: Private platforms like FB and Twitter have every right to decide what to do with individual people. This isn't the government; these are private platforms. That said: I totally agree with Moynihan: Mein Kampf, for example, SHOULD be allowed to exist and be seen and read and discussed not becuase I agree with the book (obviously I don't) but becuase if we erase history (enter the 1619 Project) we lose sight of why certain genocidal problems occured to begin with. History repeats itself, as we know. But if we erase all unpleasant history, revise it all to some Woke standard, what happens in the future? We need Mein Kampf, and books/ideas like it, so that we can see how grotesque and disgusting true racism is, and we can criticize and judge it accordingly. Take all the "bad" stuff away and we are bound to make the same mistakes again. By "we" I just mean human civilization. So my point is: Yes, platforms should be able to remove individuals in certain cases; and also yes, the standard for doing so should be incredibly rigorous. It has to be much, much more than viewpoint disagreement, or even taboo.
This episode took it's dialog direction from those late 70's early 80's films (Close encounters, Jaws) where everyone talks at the same time. The only thing missing is everyone having a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. :D
Can someone outline Kmele's argument about Kanye for me, please? I was trying to follow, but couldn't track it. Everyone generalizes so it's hypocrisy for people to come down so hard on Kanye's generalizations? But Ye's generalizations are still bad and deserve some form of punishment because they're built on anti-semitic tropes and prejudices? But not the level of punishment he's been subjected to the past week?
Trans ideology is not like race hierarchy. To think that it is is insulting. When it's one sex that commits something like 98% of sexual assaults (mostly against females, mind you) and you can't see why we need our own single sex spaces, do us a favor by working on making all men's restrooms gender neutral and leave us out of it.
Coleman Hughes voice is so sublime. If he is reading his own audiobook, I may buy two.
Kmele had a brilliant week.
For Bari Weiss's pod, Kmele moderated a debate between Rafael Mangual & Lara Bazelon on criminal justice reform. If you care about the subject, this is a must listen, podcast. The debaters are fantastic and Kmele has a real talent for putting any agenda he has aside & being objectively, intellectually curious.
Kmele's ability to seek diverse opinions & open up dialogue on tough, tribal subjects, gives a cynic like myself, some hope for the future (provided we don't all get nuked in the next week).
Difference between blaming “white people” and blaming Jews is the numbers. White people are the majority, it’s not an existential threat. Jews are 2% of the American population, it’s an existential threat once you start blaming things on us. There’s also something of a magical quality assigned to our (perceived) power, not just us rigging a system for centuries.
We need to play horseshoe theory madlibs.
"The (Jews/ Whites/ Blacks/ Asians) are overrepresented in (academia/ the media/ the government/ c- suites) because of (systemic racism/ affirmative action/ space lasers)"
What a lineup....I don't think any of those talking points will be hit...this will be a podcast about why Husker Dü's influence on The Hold Steady is over-stated, or how Chance the Rapper's Christianity is redolent of Dylan's Christian period or [insert weirdly insightful and totally unrelated obscure pop culture reference here].....and I can't fucking wait.
The Jacket is a guest?! Can't wait to listen to this!
Gillespie and Coleman? Pretty stoked to listen to this one later, two of my absolute favorites
I response to today’s opening few minutes:
Strokes cause brain injuries.
Brain injuries can cause aphasia.
Expressive aphasia (what Fetterman has) is not indicative of intelligence or cognitive ability.
Aphasia is a disability both by medical and legal standards.
https://www.biausa.org/public-affairs/media/what-is-aphasia
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/disabilityandhealth/disability.html
https://adata.org/faq/what-definition-disability-under-ada
Fetterman probably should not have agreed to debate in the traditional manner, and of course following a stroke voters should question his cognitive and decision-making abilities-which could be temporarily or permanently impaired.
But whether or not he can speak properly doesn’t have anything to do with that.
Kmele's issue seems to be that other stupid ideas and actions haven't been treated the same as Kanye's stupid ideas and actions. There is no government coercion, the free market is at work. Isn't that what Kmele ultimately wants? You can criticize others not getting same amount of heat without laying down what pretty damn close to a defense of a loud-mouthed moron (Kanye).
Forget replacing Welch, expand the fifth with Coleman and Gillespie
Hot take: it’s entirely because Kanye is a Trump supporter. People like Desean Jackson didn’t get this level of reaction.
Awesome convo. Coleman was a pleasant surprise! I love Hughes and subscribe to his podcast. Gillespie I hadn't been aware of but he's clearly a highly intelligent, articulate thinker. I wrote down that book, too, African Founders; I may have to read that one. Reminds me of Thomas Sowell. Two big points I wanted to comment on:
1. They brought up a good point about Kanye and race essentialism/contemprary American racial thinking. It's funny (and bizarre) how white woke people seem to be playing right into White Supremacy tropes in order to "make their point" about the "racism" of "white people." (I use quotation marks because WTF do these words even mean in 2022?) Megan Kelly made a similar point on her podcast in 2020: Obsessing about race and representation brings race into the pre-frontal cortex; it makes us all think obsessively about race like we never have before, at least in modern times.
Therefore, yes, some people are going to cross the line in public ways (Kanye); it's going to get nasty. I don't think anyone can be or even should be colorblind; I think we should all collectively, of all races, admit that we notice race (of course we do) and that we have thoughts/feelings/judgments about other people and this is normal and human. What's NOT normal is to ACT on those thoughts and impulses. This all boils down to the cliche of virtue-signaling and the puritanical insanity of thinking we are "higher" or morally "better" than we are. We're human beings, with character flaws and weaknesses; always have been, always will be. Let's own it.
2. I agree that the free speech fiasco we're in is tricky. I had a debate with a Substack reader on here a week or so ago. His view was that anything should be allowed on platforms. (Including dropping the fully-spelled-out "N-Word.") Many on the left, of course argue the exact opposite: Many of them feel anyone who they disagree with or they see as "evil" (another boldly subjective term) should be removed, de-platformed, destroyed.
I am closer to the first understanding, but more between the two. As so many have already said: Private platforms like FB and Twitter have every right to decide what to do with individual people. This isn't the government; these are private platforms. That said: I totally agree with Moynihan: Mein Kampf, for example, SHOULD be allowed to exist and be seen and read and discussed not becuase I agree with the book (obviously I don't) but becuase if we erase history (enter the 1619 Project) we lose sight of why certain genocidal problems occured to begin with. History repeats itself, as we know. But if we erase all unpleasant history, revise it all to some Woke standard, what happens in the future? We need Mein Kampf, and books/ideas like it, so that we can see how grotesque and disgusting true racism is, and we can criticize and judge it accordingly. Take all the "bad" stuff away and we are bound to make the same mistakes again. By "we" I just mean human civilization. So my point is: Yes, platforms should be able to remove individuals in certain cases; and also yes, the standard for doing so should be incredibly rigorous. It has to be much, much more than viewpoint disagreement, or even taboo.
Michael Mohr
"Sincere American Writing"
https://michaelmohr.substack.com/
This episode took it's dialog direction from those late 70's early 80's films (Close encounters, Jaws) where everyone talks at the same time. The only thing missing is everyone having a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. :D
Can someone outline Kmele's argument about Kanye for me, please? I was trying to follow, but couldn't track it. Everyone generalizes so it's hypocrisy for people to come down so hard on Kanye's generalizations? But Ye's generalizations are still bad and deserve some form of punishment because they're built on anti-semitic tropes and prejudices? But not the level of punishment he's been subjected to the past week?
It's a little hard to understand Kmele with Kanye's b*lls I'm his mouth. Does he owe Kanye money or something? If so, it must be an awful lot.
Just started, but "you look like a Turkish phony" made me laugh really hard.
Trans ideology is not like race hierarchy. To think that it is is insulting. When it's one sex that commits something like 98% of sexual assaults (mostly against females, mind you) and you can't see why we need our own single sex spaces, do us a favor by working on making all men's restrooms gender neutral and leave us out of it.
Coleman Hughes voice is so sublime. If he is reading his own audiobook, I may buy two.
Kmele had a brilliant week.
For Bari Weiss's pod, Kmele moderated a debate between Rafael Mangual & Lara Bazelon on criminal justice reform. If you care about the subject, this is a must listen, podcast. The debaters are fantastic and Kmele has a real talent for putting any agenda he has aside & being objectively, intellectually curious.
https://www.honestlypod.com/podcast/episode/ddc39346/has-criminal-justice-reform-made-us-less-safe-a-debate
Kmele's ability to seek diverse opinions & open up dialogue on tough, tribal subjects, gives a cynic like myself, some hope for the future (provided we don't all get nuked in the next week).