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When I first heard that Israel had bombed a refugee camp I was aghast, but it didn't sound right to me - why would they do that with the whole world watching? So I looked into it, and it turns out Jabaliya Refugee Camp is the name of a nearly 100 year old neighborhood. It's not a refugee camp, and apparently Hamas has consistently had training and weapons storage areas there because it looks so bad in the press when they report "Israel bombs refugee camp." Here's a video made a bit ago showing some people driving through it at night https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1646136832726269955

So, much like Hell's Kitchen isn't a kitchen in hell...

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How is it a “refugee” camp if these are people indigenous to the area? No one wants to see innocents killed on either side, but I don’t understand why people calling for a ceasefire don’t call for Hamas to surrender? That is the best hope for the Palestinians and Israel.

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I recommend Adi Schwartz and Einat Wilf’s book The War of Return. Goes into great deal about the “refugee” problem and how UNRWA helps perpetuate the conflict.

Einstein also had a podcast episode about UNRWA: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-should-all-be-zionists-podcast/id1698319255?i=1000631223520

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Thank you for this recommendation

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Haha Einat not Einstein

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Nov 3, 2023·edited Nov 6, 2023

Other than the 5TH Column, who really cares about Arab or Muslim lives? It seems like Muslim lives only matter when they are killed by Jews. I didn't see protests about the Uighurs, Rohingya, or Syrians. Did you?

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No Jews, no news. This has nothing to do with human lives, and everything to do with politics.

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It constantly amazes me how the Jews can never catch a break. Contemporary, historically speaking, doesn’t matter. It’s almost to the point of being metaphysical or something.

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You have to hand it to Hamas - their PR game is top notch. (yes, yes, I know you don't actually "gotta hand it to them" - they're perfectly capable of taking hands on their own).

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Happy Birthday Kmele! Thanks for (finally) making an appearance on your own podcast to celebrate with us!

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Nov 3, 2023·edited Nov 3, 2023Liked by Matt Welch

I think you're being unfair to the Poundtown lady.

Her œuvre was clearly inspired by Mozart's timeless classic "Leck mir den Arsch fein recht schön sauber"/"Lick my arse right well and clean": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mir_den_Arsch_fein_recht_schön_sauber

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THIS is the educational material I come here for.

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Nov 3, 2023Liked by Matt Welch

Before today I thought Poundtown was a British discount store.

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I know its crazy but i can still be fully committed to realizing the pragmatic goal of creating the option for a single payer health insurance system here in the USA and also NOT wanting to globally eradicate “The Jews”.

Who knew such insane fault lines could be found in an allegedly moral left wing that now justifies Hamas’ recent murderous tantrum while gleefully seeing a person fired and cast adrift from polite society for the high crime of accidentally perpetrating a microaggression.

Fortunately for Hamas, they didn’t misgender any of their 1300 victims on camera before they slaughtered them in front of their families or the western new left would be calling for Nukes on Gaza. Lol fuck off forever. I’ve lost so many friends this month. They’re disgusting.

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We're your friends now.

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Why do you think most revolutions against tyranny wind of becoming tyrants once they are in power? People are people. They are committed to whatever narrative lets them feel they are truly a special people. It's found everywhere. It's no different than millions of Christians who believe they are filled with the Holy Spirit, and that makes them a righteous person, but are perfectly fine with a philosophy that says their neighbors will be sent to eternal torment. Ultimately all isms have the same underlying roots, and that's what we have to try and work against, not the million different ways those roots flower into.

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Strange analogy. When the Christian right was throwing their collective weight around in the 80s / 90s, did they gather in the streets of Brooklyn to gleefully celebrate the slaughter of Bosnian Muslims at the hands of Christian Serbs? Other than the little Westboro Baptist bitches, I see very few parallels between what’s happening on the far left and even the most fundamentalist of Christian circles.

The far left is embracing 13th century-level barbarism, while any remotely strict interpretation of Christianity -- like Judaism, having moderated it over the last few hundred years -- is falling out of favor with its own proponents at an exponential rate, and at the very least isn’t fueling calls for the genocide of Jews. I don’t understand the instinct to reflexively proclaim “and also Christians aren’t any better” whenever some group of toxic ideologues goes full-retard. Is there a Tenth Crusade that I missed being planned on Truth Social?

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Be honest, I won’t tell anyone...did you guys have to pause the episode when Moynihan was talking about the IDF girls so he could clean himself off?

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Like he’d bother. Onward and upward!

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I almost don't believe this title isn't for a members only dispatch.

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Nov 4, 2023·edited Nov 4, 2023

Israel just made the 45-minute video it showed journalists public. You can find it on:

Hamas-Massacre dot net. I've decided not to watch (seen enough), but I think it's good it exists. Many people (including me) knew Hamas was evil, but we didn't *know it*, kind of pushed it to the back of our minds because it forces you to believe that pure evil exists, something no one wants to do. But now we know.

Also, I can't explain what it means to hear people who seemingly have no skin in the game, like Welch and Kmele (we all know Moynihan is a shill of the Zionist regime), share our outrage. It reinforces that what's happening in the US on campuses and instagram isn't an attack on Jews, it's an attack on common sense.

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After watching/listening to portions (the attack on the Thai man in particular--the glee in the young man calling his parents), I will never be the same.

All that I feel that I can do is reach out to my Jewish friends and former students to offer solidarity (and have students who might be tempted by the Queers for Palestine movement look at the atrocities committed against gay people by anti-semites past and present).

I'm just so sorry for everyone who has to not only tolerate the fear of future atrocities but REAL hate speech when you express grief and anguish over unspeakable violence.

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Just curious, Yael. Are you certain it was the Israeli government or the IDF who launched that site? The site doesn't have any claim as to who actually publishes it, but that makes sense no matter who is behind it. I may just be missing something, but I don't see a link to the 43??-minute raw video showed to journalists behind closed doors. I wonder if the site has all that video, but just labeled and categorized as separate clips. In any event, I feel sad to know that the people who really need to see this footage just won't. The number of people tearing down posters of women and children taken hostage by Hamas??, other terrorist groups, and regular Gazans who crossed the border once the barriers were torn down is distressing. I cannot process why anyone would do that, and I have heard many of them say when confronted that they do not believe there really are hostages being held. THOSE are the people who need to see this footage, but again, they won't.

And I seriously want to caution people against watching this footage "just out of curiosity". Unless you don't believe it happened, it might not be for you. Like many have said, watching such depravity, cruelty, and complete dehumanization of innocents by people so consumed with such hate can be not only unsettling, but life-changing.

I want to shout from the mountaintops my support for the Jewish people, and I must constrain myself so I do not get myself thrown in jail when I meet someone who supports this despicable scum.

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Hi Dallas, yes it was the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs if i'm not mistaken, at least they are the ones who initially tweeted a link. And I agree, no reason to watch if you are already aware of the horrors through the many clips leaked, eyewitness accounts and audio recordings. But if you think it didn't happen (as a Israeli-Arab member of knesset said yesterday!!) or if you think it wasnt that bad, part of a "cycle of violence" or was justified in the name of some grand utopian undergraduate fantasy - you should be forced to sit through the whole thing.

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Fixing the grave error of there not being a link to the song that that nice girl with a developmental disability sings

https://youtu.be/Agp7tDPbk0o?si=Nf_dDGGp7df0j6V0

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I know Hip-hop, or as I still call it "rap", is a weird thing to get all generational about, but I really think soon hip-hop is going right next to Rock as something that had its day, but there just isn't much original you can do with it anymore.

This song is a perfect example in how similar it actually is to Cardi B who is one of the most popular rappers out there right now. Both have that lazy vocal flow, with a simple rhyme scheme where you over-exaggerate the inflection on the last syllable. The music track is a simple drum loop with a borrowed melody.

We had crotch-rap too back in the day: 2-Live, Too Short. It's just nobody pretended that what they were doing was equivalent to Rakim on the mic, or the Bomb Squad on the beats. The fact that this now cutting edge stuff, just shows how close we are to The End Of The World As We Know It.

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Who said it’s cutting edge? Is that 1:1 analogous with doing well on social media?

With regards to rock, hip hop and their respective arcs, might technology be the guiding force? Electronic amplification, 45 RPM records and FM radio were all key to rock’s rise but it remains, culturally, an analogue medium.

Hip hop was better positioned than rock to make use of digital recording. It doesn’t place a comparable premium on musicians playing together, and is much more comfortable with agressive editing, made exponentially cheaper by the advent of digital recording and editing software.

Curious as to what comes next and if new technology plays a part.

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I played my wife ‘Poundtown’ one night and traumatized her so much that now when we put our baby daughter in her bouncy belt thingy, we sing ‘Bouncetown’ to her, constantly changing the lyrics to reference things in the room that are pink, and of course, brown.

Anyway ratchet sex rap was always going to be the inevitable destination of this hip-hop thing.

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I’m laughing whilst horrified. Well played.

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Nov 4, 2023Liked by Matt Welch

Loved the new video from Kmele via Big Think. Slightly irked to see Matt wearing a TFC Be Brave t-shirt despite the years long pleas for merch. Dammit Welch, that's just salt in the wound!

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Re: Linger

And they're in so deep

You know she's such a fool for him

She's got you wrapped around her fingeeeeeeeeeeer

And Abed hired an Irish singer

Britta's marryin' Britta's marryin' Jeffrey Winger

https://youtu.be/mxESs-y0YDQ?si=RYNrhUeTOxPDUYDW

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Your timing for releasing these is impeccable.

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Yes! It popped up just as I rolled myself off the couch to start dinner.

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I have no better comment to make than that the opening ten or so minutes of this ep about the lowdown Poundtown sound was responsible for my first good mood in about 48 full hours...even laughed out loud! so thank you, again, as ever!

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Yep. I even went to Youtube to find the Ben Shapiro reaction video.

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Well I can't speak about Hamas, but Hezbollah is another story. I worked with a Lebanese-American girl once, who was absolutely the hottest girl in the department. I eagerly await the Semites Gone Wild crossover video with Hezbollah and the IDF that is our only real hope for peace.

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The one thing I still can't wrap my head around: why is there so much passion in support of Hamas/Arabs/Palestinians/etcetera in the wake of October 7th as opposed to before it? Why weren't these idiots on college campuses marching and protesting in the days/months/years leading up to the attack if the conditions of those people were so intolerable in Gaza? None of the answers that I can come up with are charitable to either their intellect or their morality.

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what are you talking about, This has been simmering for years long before the 7th. up to the point that Omar was censured for her comments on this.

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