SCRATCH THAT! STAND DOWN! NO SECOND SUNDAY ON THIS SECOND SUNDAY. Too complicated w/ the people with the things being out of the country and so on. My apologies.
Matt, I am a Canadian dimwit, and not even I accept the excuse that Long Island & California are "out of the country".
It is perfectly acceptable to say one co-host has been on 10-day (10-month?) bender, the other has moved across the country for his new gig & the 3rd is in upstate NY with his family & can't have the Aux cord.
I am going to listen to Moynihan on the Dishcast to hold me over. I had to subscribe to be able to listen to the full episode. Substack take my money! Maybe there will be talk of balls in Italian tidal pools. Who knows.
I listened to the free partial episode to see how long it would take AS to bring up... oh forget it. It’s too exhausting a subject to even finish my comment. 😂
I heard Moynihan on Sullivan and was again scratching my head. In last month or so on the 5th, Moynihan mentioned Newsweek under Tina Brown with fondness. He mentioned it again while on Sully. Not too long ago, he went on a fully-justified-but-invective-laden rant against the people who ran Vice into the ground while earning fat salaries. I have spoken to four different staff writers for Newsweek, and contributed a couple of articles myself long ago. What the four all have in common is they all regard Brown to have handled Newsweek approximately the way the people who augered Vice into the ground managed that fiasco. Every one of the former Newsweekers told me it was utter chaos under Brown, and that chaos was allowed to reign while Brown kept herself busy doing self-aggrandizing hits on NPR, etc, instead of doing the hard work of managing a media outlet to try and keep it in the black when internet advertising was killing legacy magazines by the thousand. Brown fiddled while Newsweek burned, and the people I know loathe Brown for the brazen mismanagement. I'm puzzled why Moynihan has such a radically, literally 180 degree different perspective. Anyone?
I can't speak to Brown's Newsweek tenure, but she's a writer's writer with very good editorial vision. Maybe she didn't always make the best choices etc. but I can't imagine she was ever a money-grubbing, story-killing, roadblock in the way that the Vice management team was. Her book The Vanity Fair Diaries will give you a sense of her background and why she was so effective regardless of any criticisms about her style/choices.
Wasn't she running The Daily Beast and Newsweek at the same time? It seems like during that time The Daily Beast was very successful and growing, but Newsweek continued its inexorable decline. I can imagine that would cause Newsweek writers to be resentful.
I don't know the timing. But assuming that was as you propose it, there is also a large dollop of hubris, if not outright arrogance, to assume you can manage two magazines at once while also keeping a high personal profile, in an environment where magazines and newspapers were failing on a daily basis.
Moynihan did interview Brown for TFC a while ago (see below), maybe that'll hold some clues? They seemed to get on very well on a personal level. It's quite sweet, really. I recall that they worked together at some point. Was that Newsweek? Perhaps they developed a lovely friendship but Moynihan wasn't there during the period of mismanagement? Maybe their friendship endured after he stopped working with her while his memory of the mismanagement faded?
SCRATCH THAT! STAND DOWN! NO SECOND SUNDAY ON THIS SECOND SUNDAY. Too complicated w/ the people with the things being out of the country and so on. My apologies.
Too bad, good thing it's not drinking alone when the dog is home!
If you're drinking alone, and I'm drinking alone, we're drinking alone.... together.
Cheers to all who popped open a frosty one and ordered burgers, settled into the couch ready for some good 5th-lovin' only to be disappointed.
Hope the lads are enjoying their vacations and come back refreshed!
I got out the special bottle of aquavit, too. BOOO HISSSSS. I’ll go join my wife watching Bang Island or whatever I guess.
Well with me it was a Jack Daniels Country Cocktail and one of the 37 90-Day Fiancé shows currently on the air.
Matt, I am a Canadian dimwit, and not even I accept the excuse that Long Island & California are "out of the country".
It is perfectly acceptable to say one co-host has been on 10-day (10-month?) bender, the other has moved across the country for his new gig & the 3rd is in upstate NY with his family & can't have the Aux cord.
Aruba has not yet been annexed, alas.
On a long enough timeline everything will be annexed.
I stand 100% corrected!
Told you I am a dimwit, aspiring to be mid.
Darn. I'd just poured an IPA too. I'll have to drink alone.
Now what the fuck am I going to do on a lazy Sunday? I do have this new Tenacious D coloring book...
Good to keep us guessing. Otherwise, tedium.
😤
Lanesauce. :-/
Just as I got the screen mirroring working.
“Yes I love technology...”
https://youtu.be/QyiCMzm8QQo
Everybody get home safely.
Don't fret none Matt. We still love you.
Frowny Face dot jpeg
That Chairman Meow shirt (re: Christian Cooper piece)🫠
I’d be curious to know how Amy Cooper spends her Sundays, and how she’s doing in general.
So is it safe to say at this point that recordings of Second Sundays won't be posted?
Damn. Just poured a glass of wine and got on the pool float!!! Safe travels everyone!
Cheers to all who already poured one! Happy Sunday!
I am going to listen to Moynihan on the Dishcast to hold me over. I had to subscribe to be able to listen to the full episode. Substack take my money! Maybe there will be talk of balls in Italian tidal pools. Who knows.
I listened to the free partial episode to see how long it would take AS to bring up... oh forget it. It’s too exhausting a subject to even finish my comment. 😂
Same
Me: Whoop-Whoop! Second Sunday @ 8pm...
The Dead Corspe of Gilbert Gottfried: YOU FOOL!!
I heard Moynihan on Sullivan and was again scratching my head. In last month or so on the 5th, Moynihan mentioned Newsweek under Tina Brown with fondness. He mentioned it again while on Sully. Not too long ago, he went on a fully-justified-but-invective-laden rant against the people who ran Vice into the ground while earning fat salaries. I have spoken to four different staff writers for Newsweek, and contributed a couple of articles myself long ago. What the four all have in common is they all regard Brown to have handled Newsweek approximately the way the people who augered Vice into the ground managed that fiasco. Every one of the former Newsweekers told me it was utter chaos under Brown, and that chaos was allowed to reign while Brown kept herself busy doing self-aggrandizing hits on NPR, etc, instead of doing the hard work of managing a media outlet to try and keep it in the black when internet advertising was killing legacy magazines by the thousand. Brown fiddled while Newsweek burned, and the people I know loathe Brown for the brazen mismanagement. I'm puzzled why Moynihan has such a radically, literally 180 degree different perspective. Anyone?
I can't speak to Brown's Newsweek tenure, but she's a writer's writer with very good editorial vision. Maybe she didn't always make the best choices etc. but I can't imagine she was ever a money-grubbing, story-killing, roadblock in the way that the Vice management team was. Her book The Vanity Fair Diaries will give you a sense of her background and why she was so effective regardless of any criticisms about her style/choices.
Wasn't she running The Daily Beast and Newsweek at the same time? It seems like during that time The Daily Beast was very successful and growing, but Newsweek continued its inexorable decline. I can imagine that would cause Newsweek writers to be resentful.
I don't know the timing. But assuming that was as you propose it, there is also a large dollop of hubris, if not outright arrogance, to assume you can manage two magazines at once while also keeping a high personal profile, in an environment where magazines and newspapers were failing on a daily basis.
Moynihan did interview Brown for TFC a while ago (see below), maybe that'll hold some clues? They seemed to get on very well on a personal level. It's quite sweet, really. I recall that they worked together at some point. Was that Newsweek? Perhaps they developed a lovely friendship but Moynihan wasn't there during the period of mismanagement? Maybe their friendship endured after he stopped working with her while his memory of the mismanagement faded?
https://wethefifth.substack.com/p/086-w-tina-brown-the-vanity-fair-b0d?utm_source=%2Fprofile%2F4340052-michael-moynihan&utm_medium=reader2#details
Thanks, I will check that out! It was from before I was a paid subscriber.
Get Ryan long on the show!
7:30 pm EDT. Do you know where your Zoom link is?
I didn’t know Gillespie and Siskind are an item.
RIP Rodriguez
Searching for Sugar Man is definitely worth seeing